kick back

**2ponyranch** · 11-26-2006, 09:55 PM

I've been using a table saw for 20 years now and it still scares me. It took me a long time to gain confidence particularly ripping pieces.That being said, the only time I ever experienced a kickback was when I was merrily using a miter to do some repeated cut offs ( a proceedure that didn't scare me at all) and I had not moved the fence far enough away and didn't clear the cut offs out of the way. A piece bounced off a piece that bounced off the fence that bounced back into the spinning blade and went whizzing by my head like a bullet. It actually grazed my ear and cut it slightly. It was a "Depends" moment if you know what I mean. Lesson learned - the hard way.

The only other thing I would add is that you should learn how to shut your saw off quickly...practice it. Also, featherboards and hold downs are well worth the extra effort to set up.

Judy

**Carol Reed** · 11-27-2006, 04:31 AM

sorry about the pictures.

looks like Dave has turned off the picture option again.

I don't have another place on the web to store pictures at the moment, so it looks like the time I took to formulate you some help is wasted.

If you email me directly, I can email you the pictures.

carol.j.reed@gmail.com

**dwerden** · 11-27-2006, 06:37 AM

Carol,

The picture option is still active. Note that it is a 2-step process within the popup window. First you find the picture and click the Upload button. Then you select the picture from your list and click the Attach button. That's how I did this one:

**Carol Reed** · 11-27-2006, 07:02 AM

Dave,

When I click on the image button, all I get is a pop-up asking for a URL. When I click on the "Attach File(s)" button on the bottom, I can upload and then attach, but that seems to be restricted to a text file, not a jpg. That is what I tried and the pictures were not included.

BTW, I still can't rid of the orange thingies. My cookies are working, because the site remembers that I am logged in.

Sorry, but I am frustrated beyond words with this.

**dwerden** · 11-28-2006, 06:26 AM

I'm working with Carol to fix the upload issue. In the meantime, here are the pictures she was trying to upload earlier (see posts above):

**dwerden** · 11-28-2006, 07:18 AM

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Carol Reed
I still can't rid of the orange thingies. My cookies are working, because the site remembers that I am logged in.
</end quote></div>

It looks like this is caused by using the arrow keys on the browser to navigate instead of using the forum's links. If any of you are having this problem, please see the FAQ section and look for the topic called "How Do I Set It to Only See New Messages."

**dmr** · 11-28-2006, 08:18 AM

Very valuable info. Thanks for getting the pic's uploaded. I couldn't visualize what Carol was describing, but the pictures make it quite clear. My thanks to all!!!

**litebkt** · 11-30-2006, 08:35 PM

There is something to the technique that hasn't been mentioned here while pushing the piece through... if you don't do this right, you are going to have kick back problems.

If you are using a push stick or your hand, your "push" pressure should be closer to the blade than it is to the fence. If you are pushing near the fence, the work wants to twist counter clockwise (assuming your fence and workpiece are to the left of the blade). If this happens, the wood will be kicked back by the blade.

If you are pushing closer to the blade, the piece will want to twist clockwise... which will keep it snug against the fence and running true. This is what you want to do.

If you are cutting a number of small pieces with your miter gauge, stop the saw and move each piece off the table as you cut it.

If you can cut a sheet of plywood down to smaller sizes before ripping, do it. My saw can easily handle a full sheet of ply with my extension tables. But I still will manually rip up a full sheet into smaller and more manageable pieces before feeding them to the beast. This is very time consuming but I've had an accident free history since I started doing this.

When I approach the saw for every single cut I make, I stand to the side and I think about how I am going to fall if I get hit from a kickback. I've only had a kickback once after thinking through it all and I fell away from the blade because I had thought about it before hand.

Michelle

**dmr** · 12-18-2006, 06:56 PM

Carol the dial indicator you suggested finally arrived, but for the life of me I don't know how to use it. I mean I know what to do once I figure out how the dial indicator works. {thanks to the pics} It's the dial indicator itself that I'm unfamiliar with. On the one I got from HF sometimes the plunger will depress all the way in and sometimes only a fraction of the way. What am I doing wrong? What are the two little "screws"on the sides of the indicator for? I assume one of them is to zero the device, but which one? And what does the other one do? Sorry, but I have no experience with this tool.